Harvard geneticist Richard Lewontin famously insisted that science must never let a “divine foot in the door.” On a new episode of ID the Future, new Center for Science & Culture researcher Brian Miller talks with interview Tod Butterfield about the bizarre place this has taken evolutionist William Hamilton.

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Arguing that an “ultimate good, which is of a religious nature,” could exist, Hamilton describes this higher source not as God or any other non-material entity but as aliens who set up earth as a type of zoo. Listen in. It gets even stranger.

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